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[dropcap]P[/dropcap]artecipare ad eventi come il RomeMUN – programma formativo finalizzato ad insegnare a studenti da tutto il mondo il lavoro interno delle Nazioni Unite – è un’esperienza che apre cuore e mente: hai l’occasione di incontrare e stringere rapporti con persone da ogni parte del mondo e di discutere temi attuali con loro.

A questo proposito, io e all’incirca altri dieci ragazzi ci siamo iscritti nel ruolo di giornalisti per il network “BBC World News“. In veste di veri e propri reporter, abbiamo potuto realizzare interviste ai delegati e agli ospiti di queste quattro giornate di conferenza, svoltesi a Roma dal 14 al 18 Marzo. Di sotto, riporto l’intervista in lingua inglese realizzata da una delle “giornaliste” con cui ho avuto il piacere di lavorare ad un ragazzo Pakistano, esattamente il giorno dopo il terribile attentato a Lahore.


Interview to Pakistani delegate Salaman Tahir representing Afghanistan at SOCHUM committee

Originally from Lahore city of Pakistan, he’s now studying MA in International relations and European studies in Central European University of Budapest

Q: Do you know something about the terroristic attack occurred in the Karachi district?

A: I think it is extremely unfortunate how often this kind of events happens: a couple of months ago an attack occurred in a school in Peshawar and most of the victims were children. I think that by now most of the population of Pakistan has become desensitized to such events. When it happens on a daily basis, of course it would become natural to be more defensive to this sort of incidents. But I think this is not the moment to become desensitized: we need to take these issues more seriously, we need to acknowledge the lives that have been lost and take effective measures to ensure that events like these won’t happen again.

Q: Do you think that the attack in Peshawar and the attack of yesterday are linked in some way?

A: They might, but at the same time they might not: both facts have been shaped by the same ideology, radical ideologies and criminal practices that have been propagated all over the society. I think that this way of thinking is extremely dangerous, especially for countries like Pakistan, polarized and stigmatized to such an extent.

Q: What part of Pakistan do you come from? Did you manage to call your relatives?

A: I come from Lahore but I have some relatives in Karachi and yes, I did call them to see if they were okay, which I always do, but especially in those cases.

Q: Have you ever witnessed the explosion of a bomb or something similar to a terroristic attack?

A: It was the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team, a couple of years ago, and that happened right outside my high school. The windows broke and that was, everything was…

I was pretty young at that time, so to witness such a thing was really sort of traumatic for me. Not because I was experiencing that live for the first time, but because it showed me where the society is directed. I personally am focused to become a better citizen, to make other individuals better citizens for Pakistan and for a better future.

Q: Do you know why the attack occurred and is it difficult to be part of a minority in Pakistan, for example a religious minority?

A: It is very difficult, not just for religious minorities but also the opposite sex and even Muslims like Shiites and Hammadides. Pakistan was founded on the principles of tolerance for all religions. Therefore, the fact that Islamic factions have come and targeted with radical actions all the religious minorities living in the country is absolutely, I’d say in lack of a better word, ridiculous. This country was made with the idea of cohabitation of all different sections. Pakistan itself is very diverse: there are so many ethnicities, so many languages and so many religions. That’s why those events make me so frustrated.

Q: Do you think there’s a link between what’s happening in Syria and Iraq with ISIS, considering Pakistan’s position as an ally of the United States of America?

A: I think that something is already happening because many of these factions, even ISIS, have their routes or channels with the organization that resides in Pakistan. The tribal areas of Pakistan are zones that not even the government has effective control over. Therefore I think that the political events that are happening in the Middle East might not be replicated in Pakistan, which has a very different political structure and system. But, because of the many issues related to security, the ISIS threat in the Middle East might affect Pakistan and, vice versa, the threats in Pakistan might affect the situation in the Middle East.

Q: What would be the position of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif about the attack?

A: He’d come out and say that he sympathizes with all the lives lost as he always does, but then we don’t see him taking any concrete measure.

Q: Do you think there’s a lack of measure?

A: Definitely. It’s not the first time that a religious minority is victimised in Pakistan, there have been many attacks on Christians, Hammadides or Shiites.

Q: Do you think it’s just a matter of religious divergences or there’s something more?

A: Within Karachi, there can be religious and political reasons. There are many different levels of crime and terrorism. This kind of threats can be due to any assortment or any combination of reasons. I just think that concrete measures to avoid this sort of threats have not been taken by the government and they need to. There’s a huge gap between the government and the armed forces: ever since the first military dictatorship in Pakistan, the military has had influence on economical and political facts and it still does. Unless this gap is fulfilled, they cannot introduce a coherent and effective security policy that can hindrance this sort of threats.


Intervista realizzata durante le giornate del RomeMUN 2015 da Federica Vassalli, studentessa di economia presso l’Università degli studi di Roma “La Sapienza”